The Skakagrall

Yes... and the twin towers was a jewis conspiracy, no plane ever crashed on the pentagon (it was a missile launched by the CIA), Aznar organized the bombing in Madrid, Blair those in London (even there a "chief constable" is saying that it was all plotted by the UK goverment) and so forth.

Come on... you are a bit too old for conspiracy theories...

And let me guess, there are Gremlins lurking all around you just trying to trip you up.

WI: No conspiracy? Then obviously the plane was never blown up. Is that what you saying? There was a conspiracy not to have a conspiracy?

Alice: Have you actually read the article? A (retired) Scottish police chief has made a signed statement and given it to Megrahi's lawyers. . .

[Edit. Anon. WI. Please send personal messages by email. This is for comments.]

Yes, I read the article.

"Any police officer who believed they had knowledge of any element of fabrication in any criminal case would have a duty to act on that. Failure to do so would call into question their integrity, and I can't help but question their motive for raising the matter now."

And I stand by my comment.

Alice: "I stand by my comment."

About gremlins? Really?

Thank you for quoting one paragraph from the article I linked to in the post, but it would be more balanced to take it as a whole. The journalist did a good job. He didn't prejudge the issue.

Come on Simon, remember that there is also the guy ex-military scientist that is telling that hangar 51 (or the hell is called) is plenty of aliens.

I just want to make the point that for every big event there is always a series of persons that will try to create this conspiracy theories, many times for personal gain other times just for the sake of being famous.

In Italy every big airplane disaster, terrorist attack, financial big operation and so forth is always followed by an endless series of officials or persons involved to whatever extent creating the most incredible conspiracy theory (and this can last years...)

I think we should be all serious on this. Lybia itself has admitted his responsabilities in the attack... something that your article strangely enogh forgot to mention...

WI: I think you may have lost the plot here. There WAS a conspiracy. If there hadn't been one, the plane would not have been blown up.

Your last point is a bit silly. You should have checked the Scotsman archive. Nobody is denying that Libya decided to cooperate. They had good reasons for doing so. Gaddafi is off the blacklist, but then he is not in Barlinnie Prison, is he?

The relevant questions are (1) was Megrahi just the 'fall guy', and (2) is this a failure of Scottish justice? The second question is important for us here. This is not Guantanamo Bay.

Guantanamo Bay? And exactly what is that supposed to mean.

Do you mean the Cuban Missle Crisis and the total disaster that ultimately transpired because JFK and his brother turned their backs on the Cuban fighters who were against Castro, or do you mean the present prison that is holding terrorists, and suspected terrorists?

The latter.

If it was not obvious, I was referring to standards of justice.

Actually you are trying to mix up the cards. One thing is the conspiracy made by the Lybian terrorist/goverment the other is the conspiracy you (or better your article) is talking about, in other words the CIA manipulating evidence to make the Lybian guilty instead of the Palestinian... come on Simon, give me a break. There was no conspiracy on CIA part just a terrorist attack from the Lybian as admitted bu the Lybian goverment itself.

[Ed. Please spell check before you post. It's Libya not Lybia etc.]

[Ed. not relevant.]

WI: I have NOT taken a position on Lockerbie. I have an open mind. I didn't write the Scotsman article myself.

I would like to see comments posted here that add to our understanding of the issues. I do not want to read generalized, irrelevant opinions. They are a waste of everybody's time.

Go elsewhere if you want to write this kind of thing. If you want to make comments here do some research first.

Oh. I posted on here before all the fighting broke out and thanked you for bringing a very interesting article to my attention.
I've no idea why everyones feathers should be so ruffled.

Thank you Caroline.

The issue here is whether Megrahi is guilty or innocent and I have an open mind on this.

(Incidentally he is now in Greenock Prison not Barlinnie.)

Indeed. I have an open mind about most things. I do not, however, think that your posting here is on the same level as the 'did they really walk on the moon' or any other such nonsense, as seems to have been suggested.
They did walk on the moon.
A 'plane did crashed at Lockerbie.

I'll go away now and tend my pigs, I'm not up to all this shinannigans but I shall continue to look in here. I liked your stance on Vicus' site when the trouble started. You and MarkG should head straight for posts in the UN or the International Calming Council. Off you go now.